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With the new thorns set for Crusader, I'm wondering which Legendary Gems besides Boyarsky's Chip affect thorns damage.
For instance, does the damage amplification from Bane of the Stricken affect the damage output from my thorns?
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Yes.
It depends what you mean if you want a more complicated answer, though. It works in general like you think it would, but the damage multiplier might not be as straightforward as I think..that is, I'm fairly sure Stricken is its own multiplier, so it will multiply all damage done after calculations by its multiplier. In other words, if you stack it to 100%, whatever damage you would have done is increased to two times the normal amount.
Regardless, if Stricken didn't affect the damage output from your thorns, then no one would use it on Invoker Crusader, but it clearly works (I've played dozens of rifts as Invoker sader and after wailing with my punish skill on a 7 trillion health rift boss for 2 minutes I'm hitting it for 20 billion per hit as opposed to the 2 billion on the first hit). I'd spend 5+ minutes killing the RG if I didn't have Stricken on in any grift past 75. It takes roughly 2-3 minutes for any RG after 75.
In general I believe thorns damage is affected the same way any other damage is. It depends on the gem; i.e., Bane of the Trapped is its own multiplier whereas Gem of Efficacious Toxin's level 25 passive is an additive multiplier (10% additive).
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Legendary Shields in Diablo 3 and Reaper of Souls. All regular shields can be used by any class, though they are used mostly by Crusaders, who also have special Crusader shields as well.
See the individual articles for full stats and details on these hand-warmers.
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Legendary Crusader Shields - Crusader restricted
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Legendary Gems (or LGems or LeGems) were added to Reaper of Souls in Patch 2.1, after extensive testing on the PTR. There were initially 14 types of Legendary Gems, with more added each Season. Most Legendary Gems have a function only when socketed in rings and amulets, this makes rings and amulets with sockets highly sought.
Rules of Drop and Use[edit | edit source]
Legendary Gems are only dropped from Greater Rift Guardians, the final bosses of Greater Rifts. A Gem is guaranteed to drop if the player doesn't have on in his equipment, inventory or stash. This guarentees that a player will get all Legendary Gems without having to rely too much on the RNG. Duplicates are only possible if another character takes a Gem out of the stash.
All gems are dropped at rank 0 and must be socketed into a ring or amulet, making such rings and amulets valuable. Players can use the Mystic to add sockets to ring and amulets they like. Socketing and removing work the same as with normal Gems.
Legendary Gems come with an effect with an upgradeable value in it. Each rank the gem gains increases the value by a set amount. Gems are upgraded by Urshi after completing a Greater Rift within 15 minutes. Players get 3 chances to upgrade gems for each rift. Upgrade odds are based on Gem Level and Greater Rift Level. When both are equal, the chance is 60%. When the Greater Rift is more than 6 level higher, the chances up, topping out at 100 % at 10 levels. If the Gem is higher, the chance is halved for each rank of difference. The max gem rank is 200, far beyond the highest Greater Rift Clear.
Upgrade Odds[edit | edit source]
Examples:
Note that the odds recalculate with each successful upgrade, so a gem rolling successfully could be 100% on the first try, 90% on the second, and 80% on the third.
Legendary Gems Catalog[edit | edit source]
LGem Popularity[edit | edit source]
Legendary Gems were immediately embraced by players as a powerful new feature in the game, and sockets in jewelry became immediately sought after as mandatory end game affixes. Of all the gems, the offensive ones were the most popular and most used, since killing things faster is almost always the best and most fun strategy in Diablo III.
As for defensive legendary gems, even in Hardcore they were hardly used, which prompted much bigger defensive bonuses on the gems in the second batch, Esoteric Alteration and Molten Wildebeest’s Gizzard, added in Season Two.
Gem Upgrade Development[edit | edit source]
The system was under construction all throughout the PTR and saw major changes during July and August, 2014.
Gems initially had 50 ranks, with the odds to upgrade[1] increasing on higher Greater Rift levels. This was reworked after a few weeks, and a patch on August 5, 2014 changed the maximum level from 50 to 200 and greatly increased the odds for multiple rank boosts per upgrade, as well as granting multiple upgrade opportunities on higher level greater rifts. [1]
Legendary gems now start at rank 0
That system was changed again late in the PTR, with the ranks cut from 200 to 25, and a whole new system of upgrade odds implemented, based on the difference in level between the gem and the Grift. Those odds were the final system which went live a few weeks later.
Legendary Gem Design Theory[edit | edit source]
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Blizzard's John Yang explained the design theory behind Legendary Gems while they were being tested on the PTR, July 15, 2014. [2]
Hi everyone. I wanted to pop in here while discussion on Legendary gems is ongoing.
First off, our philosophy on Legendary gems is that, when you pick one up for the first time, you should immediately want to use it, assuming it’s for your build, since some gems don’t apply to all builds/needs. This puts a minimum bar on the starting power level. After that, the power increase per upgrade is directly related to the frequency of upgrading, which is closely tied to the Greater Rift reward scheme and is still being iterated on. In the end, we’d like gems to be infinitely upgradeable when it makes sense, but not be outrageous.
Additionally, all Legendary gems have been disabled for followers. These powers were not designed for followers in mind, and this way we can ensure the gems are of a high power level because you can only have 3 equipped. In the future, if followers need avenues of advancement we would likely make Legendary gems specifically designed for them.
Now for the details. The existing stats you see on Legendary gems on the PTR today are somewhat placeholder. So, to steer further discussion in a direction that’s more in line with the next PTR build, here are the freshly tuned numbers (with some of my notes) for each gem.
Best Legendary Gems For Crusader Diablo 3Official Reveal[edit | edit source]
Legendary Gems were first revealed in June 2014 and the first official info came from Blizzard's Patch 2.1 preview blog.[3]
Legendary Gems are still undergoing significant iteration at this time, so you won’t see them available on the PTR right away. The gist is that these gems are infinitely upgradeable, and provide special Legendary powers when socketed into the appropriate gear slot.They can only be socketed into Rings and Amulets, and can be upgraded by completing additional Greater Rifts. The higher you place in a Greater Rift, the more likely your gem will be successfully upgraded. We’ll have more details in the future as we continue development on these powerful baubles, so stay tuned!
Best Legendary Gems For BarbarianMedia[edit | edit source]
Images of Legendary Gems, from the initial 50 rank system on the PTR.
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